UPDATED: Facebook removes JDL Canada’s page, calls group ‘dangerous’

UPDATED: Facebook removes JDL Canada’s page, calls group ‘dangerous’

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For the second time in a month, Facebook took down the page of the Jewish Defence League of Canada, citing its “community standards” policy on “dangerous organizations.”

The social media giant removed the JDL’s Facebook page earlier this month.

The JDL believed it was because of its well-known logo, a raised fist silhouetted on a yellow Star of David.

Within days, the JDL put up a new page, with a new logo.

But on Feb. 15, Facebook took down that page, too.

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Also taken down on Feb. 15 was the public group page “Jewish Defence League of Canada.”

Both JDL pages “are not allowed to be on Facebook, so they were correctly removed,” Facebook spokesperson Meg Sinclair told The CJN via email.

She sent a link to Facebook’s “community standards” and its section on “dangerous organizations,” which states that it does not allow “any organizations that are engaged in the following to have a presence on Facebook: terrorist activity, or organized criminal activity.

“We also remove content that expresses support for groups that are involved in the violent or criminal behaviour mentioned above,” the policy states.

Sinclair did not reply to a follow-up question on why Facebook considers the JDL in Canada a dangerous organization.

Still on Facebook as of Feb. 16 were public group pages for “Jewish Defence League Alberta,” “Jewish Defense League Chicago” and “Jewish Defence League New Zealand.”

At the same time as the first JDL page was taken down, Weinstein’s personal Facebook account was suspended for 30 days because, he said, he had re-posted an anti-Semitic threat he had received.

The accounts of several JDL page administrators were also suspended for a few days.

“We obviously strongly disagree with [Facebook’s] definition,” Weinstein told The CJN, “and we’ll going to deal with it in a legal manner. We’re going to be getting a lawyer involved.”

He said he’s also considering a human rights complaint.

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In the United States, the FBI branded the JDL a “right-wing terrorist group.” No such designation has occurred in Canada.

Weinstein said the JDL’s old page was visited “thousands” of times a day and generated ad revenue.

He said administrators were building the new page just as it, too, was scrubbed.

“We’re a target of people who don’t like what we stand for,” he said, adding he believes Facebook has an anti-Israel and anti-Jewish bias.

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  • My Name Here

    The JDL was cited in an FBI report on domestic terrorism a few years ago and former leader Irv Rubin died in prison while awaiting trial for planning to blow up a mosque. Why doesn’t CJN mention this in its article for context?

    • @Neshika_

      Because 15 years is not a ‘few’ years ago. And, JDL Canada is a separate entity in any case from the defunct JDL America. That’s why.

      • Yerachmiel HaLevi

        Actually it was the same organization to some degree I belonged to JDL in America before I moved to Israel & know Meir very well & indeed we were all connected.

        • Shum

          Shhh, that’s not the party line Yerachmiel. Meir and his cheerleading squad have been claiming for years that JDL Canada has nothing to do with JDL US. Don’t expose them as liars or they might try to beat you up.

      • My Name Here

        Except if you look at archive.org, Meir Weinstein’s JDL Canada was listed on the JDL US site as a branch of the US JDL before the US site went offline several years ago. And Meir Weinstein was a close colleague of JDL US leader and terrorist Irv Rubin and had been the North American spokesman of the terrorist group Kach (which is on Canada’s list of terrorist organizations)

        • TerrorIsEvil

          You know, there is real news out there – you don’t have to delve into fake news that Trump won an election showing he can fight against and defeat.

          One major reason why the American people voted for Trump was to dump the news-making celebrity journalists who pump out fabricated news stories out of thin air and with only scraps of evidence – they make millions selling the same old party line to the same old a cadre of so-called “progressives.”

          • My Name Here

            How is Meir Weinstein being quoted in a Canadian Press article as a spokesman for Kach, an as an apologist for terrorist Baruch Goldstein “fake news”? How are JDLbleaders Irv Rubin and Earl Krugel’s roles in a terrorist plot to blow up a mosque and assassinate a US Congressman “fake news”? I see “fake news” is what you call facts you don’t like.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            Do you want antisemitism and terrorism to be carried out against Jews with impunity and without any push-back against terrorists carrying out war,
            propaganda and antisemitism against Jews? If not, then some brave people must be soldiers for the Jewish people and fight back!

            Fake news states that terrorism does not exist and tells us to close our eyes.

            Fake news tells us that terrorism is not connected to Islam

            Fake news tells us that Islamists are not terrorists.

            Fake news says that Islamists are not antisemites.

            Fake news says that defending against Islamist terrorists just makes the situation worse and so let’s just give up, give in, wave the white flag and go away – and let the gates of hell open up on us all.

          • Jeff

            wrong, Islamists are not terrorists, some people who are Muslim are terrorists, some Christians are terrorists, even some Jews, but not as many

        • TerrorIsEvil

          All is fair in love and war.

        • TerrorIsEvil

          I am all for fighting terror with a great deterrent like the JDL…the fact that you fear the JDL is a good thing because such fear counterbalances the real terrorism. It also sends shivers down the spines of those on the left who do not take terrorism seriously (the left support terrorism in some cases and on some levels) because it has not hit their friends and families as it has done to millions of others worldwide.

          A great deterrent only works when the group is serious, feared and seriously fighting a real enemy who is not merely a illusion but rather a deadly killing machine coming after our people.

      • My Name Here

        Nope, they were listed as a chapter of the US JDL on that organizations website a decade ago. http://web.archive.org/web/20060518081754/http://www.jdl.org/information/contact.shtml

        • TerrorIsEvil

          Anyone can put up a website these days and many do with lots of garbage.

          • My Name Here

            The link is to the official JDL website.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            How do we know that this was an official site form years ago that is now no longer up? I open up all kinds of fake websites copied from official websites…and if it was taken down then there must have been a reason and a problem with it – errors in its content or its legitimacy. Maybe you are the one who put it up years ago to purposely damage the JDL and Jewish people’s ability to defend themselves with what the JDL are – a great deterrent.

          • Shum

            Because the website archived in archive.org is jdl.org which has always been the US JDL’s official domain. Nice try though. What excuse are you going to come up with next? Space aliens? Alternate universe?

          • TerrorIsEvil

            I guess you will have to live with it bud. They are a force to be reckoned with and, in my opinion, on the side that defends against terrorism – not on the side who ARE terrorists.

            You are on the side of terrorists, they (and I) are on the side that wants terrorism and antisemitism ended. JDL defend. Islamists and leftists attack. So who has the moral high ground? If some of the JDL hate terrorists, I can understand why. How about you?

          • Shum

            So you’re admitting that JDL Canada was connected to the JDL US that was listed in the FBI’s domestic terrorism report.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            I doubt it and I think that you should concentrate on preventing and eradicating real terrorim instead of attaking those who do.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            Go complain to your friends in the IJV and the Muslim Brotherhood.

  • Although I’m not a member of the JDL, I have attended many of their events and there is nothing criminal going on there. The only criminal activity going on is by Facebook for playing G-d and deciding by themselves who can and who can’t post on FB. This dangerous form of censorship is what occurred in Germany prior to WWII.
    I sincerely hope that the JDL successfully sues the pants off FB and shuts them down!

    • Alton Clark

      If you can’t bring yourself to spell GOD then why even put G-d ?

      • Jon Hammond7

        Jews are reverent of Jehovah which is why they spell God as G-d.

        Apparently, you prefer minutia instead of the real story which is Facebook appeasing Islamists and preventing the legal non-terrorist Jewish Defence League of Canada from exposing Islamic terrorist groups and Islamo-fascists as well as their useful idiots among the Left.

      • Yerachmiel HaLevi

        It is a Jewish thing we respect the name G-d in all languages but I guess a Gentile like you can’t understand that!!!

      • TerrorIsEvil

        Please explain that Holy Ghost thingy to me – never quite understood that concept.

  • TerrorIsEvil

    If the JDL is a ” “right-wing terrorist group,” then Mark Zukerberg is controlling the world in a Jewish conspiracy through Facebook.

    These charges would be funny if they were not so blatantly foolish, childish and in the spirit of shutting down free speech when that free speech deals with concerns related to terrorism and antisemitism (apparently, leftists have a fundamental blindness and dangerous lack of concern for both terrorism and antisemitism).

    • Jeff

      foaming at the mouth again

      • Jon Hammond7

        Jeff, you don’t have anything intelligent to say ever, do you?

        • Jeff

          I would but afraid you would not understand

  • @Neshika_

    This statement is incorrect: In the United States, the FBI branded the JDL a “right-wing terrorist group.”

    According to The National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism—better known as START (https://www.start.umd.edu/about/about-start) —a university-based research and education centre comprised of an international network of scholars committed to the scientific study of the causes and human consequences of terrorism in the United States and around the world and recognized (and funded) by The Department of Homeland Security as a Center of Excellence, the Jewish Defence League (as it was in the United States prior to reinstitution in 2016 as a branch of the JDL Canada) is NOT a terrorist organization. Nor, is it currently listed as such on either the US State Department or FBI lists of active terrorist organizations.

    This is Google’s cache of http://www.start.umd.edu/…/terrorist_organization_profile.a…. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on 13 Jun 2016 01:19:18 GMT.

    You will note that JDL is not listed as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO), nor is it listed as such in the UK, Australia, Canada, the EU, or Russia.

    Further, JDL Canada has NEVER been identified by law enforcement in Canada as a terrorist organization nor have any of its members been charged or convicted of any activities related to hate-speech, assault, or other criminal activity related to the JDL Canada. JDL marshals never carry weapons or initiate physical contact. They have never been involved in any violent incident. Toronto police, CSIS and the RCMP, who have all benefited from JDL research and informed leads in combatting terrorism.

    • My Name Here

      The FBI’s report “Terrorism 2000/2001” described the JDL as “a right wing extremist group” so I’m afraid you’re wrong Neshika. You can find the report here. https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terror Also what was Irv Rubin charged with again ( he killed himself while awaiting trial) and his deputy, Earl Krugel convicted of?

      • TerrorIsEvil

        As you busy yourself looking for specks of evidence to connect one or two incidents (long ago) to Jewish “right-wing extremism,” hundreds of thousands were and are being killed by real terrorists in real terror states by real Islamist terrorists. The FBI make mistakes such as

        “FBI’s ‘shameful’ investigation of Martin Luther King Jr.” See: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-fbi-mlk-history-lesson-20160814-snap-story.html

        • My Name Here

          Specks of evidence? The long time leader of the JDL dying in prison while awaiting trial for his role in a terrorist plot is a “speck”? His deputy being convicted of the plot is a “speck”? His friend being the current JDL Canada leader is a “speck”? Weinstein’s links with the banned Kach terrorist group is a “speck”?

          • TerrorIsEvil

            Yes, specks of evidence, probably forced out of the detainee as sometimes happens to US prisoners undergoing torture.

            If you were not such a fool, you would be able to tell the difference between one suspect and hundreds of thousands of real terrorists, with real objectives (to kill you unless you are a strict Islamist like them).

            Your real objective is to poison the minds of the public against Jews and is not really concerned with the huge death rate among populations in Islamist-infested countries which are now sending their victims by the boatload all around the world as “refugees.”

          • My Name Here

            Ah so now you’ve descended into conspiracy theories. What are you going to do next, blame it on the Rothschilds and George Soros? And also, Krugel wasn’t a mere suspect, he was convicted as would have been Rubin has he not taken the coward’s way out and killed himself.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            Wow, you really have a hate on for a man who has been dead so long.

            I would not blame anything on the Rothschilds but a lot on George Soros who uses guys like you (pays them, in fact) to dig up every scintilla of dirt to make all Jews look bad for the mistakes of one or two. He too seems to have a hate on for Jews and Israel. Do you know why? I can only guess and regurgitate what I have read but I do not really know what is going on in that old head of his.

          • My Name Here

            Ah yes, the big bad George Soros – shame that you’re spreading anti-Semitic conspiracy theories.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            So you approve of Soros’ goals and his methods?

          • My Name Here

            I don’t approve of the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory you’re peddling.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            You mean like your conspiracy theory you are peddling/spreading about the JDL?

          • TerrorIsEvil

            Thanks for the thumbs-up, “My Name Here”! Your finger must have slipped, just as your logic slips from time-to-time.

    • TerrorIsEvil

      You have to dig real deep to find a Jewish terrorist – they are few and far between. On the other hand, any factual database on terrorism will give you hundreds of millions of dead as a result of Islamic terrorism over ages of conquest, forced conversions, deadly rapes, female genital mutilation, honor killings, stoning and victims of harsh sharia law.

      Any proper TV station on any given day will reveal at least 150 dead that day and most Islamic terror goes unreported because there are no Starbucks in terror-ravaged countries for latte-sipping journalists.

      • My name here sounds like a broken record. He should get a job at CNN. While Trump is going after Islamic terrorists, CNN is condemning him for the way he shakes peoples hands.

        Thank G-d we have the JDL. I only wish that many more people especially young Jewish students would join up. While most large, wealthy Jewish organizations are busy sponsoring gala dinner events and patting themselves on the back, the JDL is out on the streets, in the rain, snow and heat standing up for us. I am as proud of the JDL right here in Toronto as I am of the soldiers in the IDF. When I am attacked in any way by an Islamist (and the way our country is going, this is very likely to occur) I would rather rely on the JDL for protection than on our local police.

        • TerrorIsEvil

          I agree with you. The JDL work hard to maintain a friendly relationship with the police and keep them informed of their activities.Those who hate the JDL are looking for opportunities do harm to others without interference or intervention from the police or the JDL. This “My Name Here” guy is using every tactic in the Alinsky playbook to pick away at and defeat the enemy – and let’s be clear – that their enemy is the Jewish people.

          • My Name Here

            Soros and now Alinsky?You’re using every anti-Semitic trope you can think of.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            Yes, there are some bad ones out there but I doubt that those two guys (Soros and Alinsky) would admit to being Jewish. Maybe when they are accused of Israel hatred they will trump out (excuse the expression) their Jewish credentials long enough to divert our eyes away from their antisemitism . And Bernie Sanders is reluctant to self-identify as Jewish except when he is front of leftist Jewish donors. They are more likely to self-identify as socialists – in Soros’ case as a billionaire socialist.

          • My Name Here

            Ah yes, it’s the rich “Judeo-Bolsheviks” behind everything. You’re an anti-Semitic conspiracy nut, Terror.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            In your view it is antisemitic to point out antisemites!

          • My Name Here

            It’s anti-Semitic to argue that there’s a Jew pulling the strings which is the anti-Semitic impulse behind all the Soros and Alinsky conspiracy theories.

          • TerrorIsEvil
  • Jon Hammond7

    The Jewish Defence League of Canada and its Canadian city affiliates have NEVER been classified as a terrorist organization by the Canadian government.

    Do you know which organizations have been classified as terrorist organizations? Hamas (which Al Quds Day Muslims in Toronto support while they hold pictures of Iran’s late Ayatollah Khomeini which I have personally witnessed), Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda, ISIS, etc. so it’s time to crack down on known Islamo-fascist groups, mosques, and institutions that fund and promote these organizations in Canada.

    • My Name Here

      Kach/Kahane Chai is on the list and JDL Canada leader Meir Weinstein is Kach’s former North American spokesman.

      • TerrorIsEvil

        When JDL and all other people fighting against terrorism are gone and your favorite terrorists are in power, then who will protect us from Islamization and prevent us from living as they do in ISIS State?

        • My Name Here

          If the JDL wants to fight terrorism the best thing they can do is disband.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            And the hits just keep on coming. Now you are saying that those who fight against terrorism must cease and desist to make you happy. You moon bats really know how to harm civilization by tying the hands of the good guys and giving the all clear to the terrorists.

          • My Name Here

            No, just terrorist groups like the JDL.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            Are you okay with the IDF or do they also need your permission and approval as well to defend Jewish citizens?

            Is there anyone in this world who would be allowed by you to protect the Jewish people or do you want the Jewish people to be like they were when they were in Europe in the 20th century?

            What groups other than the JDL do you speak out against in these forums?

          • Shum

            The JDL do not, in any way, shape or form, “protect the Jewish people”. They are just a group of mostly out of shape thugs, bullies and hoodlums who are a source of embarassment to the Jewish community. They aren’t even very good bullies. According to press reports, the one or two times Meir’s street gang successfully provoked a physical confrontation they ended up getting their asses kicked.

          • TerrorIsEvil

            “Getting their asses kicked” and acting like “terrorists” are contradictory descriptions.So what is it – a bunch of putzes who can’t punch their way out of a bag or a dangerous terror group that you and others smear because they want to put the group down in whatever way they can and with whatever propaganda they can dig up?

            You and “My Name here” seem like people whose mission is to stop anyone from defending Jewish people from real harm – harm that you downplay because you want it to spread and become violent.

            So, in conclusion, you are haters who want harm to be visited on the heads of Jews – and the JDL are in your way – Perhaps only symbolically. Maybe they really did kick your asses after all and you are seeking revenge.

            Or…maybe you are one of those Hamas agents living in Mississauga and using your Institutions as terror bases in Canada.

          • Shum

            “”Getting their asses kicked” and “acting like terrorists” are contradictory descriptions. ” Not really, they have a long history of incompetence. That’s pretty clear from their failed plot to blow up a mosque as well as other incidences listed at http://archive.adl.org/extremism/jdl_chron.html

          • TerrorIsEvil

            If they were as incompetent as you allege, then why are you so worked up and hysterical about destroying them?

          • TerrorIsEvil

            At least they don’t beat up on the disabled as Hamas did on one occasion at the side of one of their Hamas terror bases in Ontario.

  • Shum

    I dunno. You sound like a self-hating Jew who is overcompensating. Blaming Soros, Alinksy and the Joooz is a classic neo-nazi (and now alt-right) frame of thought and the only Jew who would adopt it as their own thinking is self-hating Jews on the far right.

    • TerrorIsEvil

      No, you are the hater of Jewish people as you look for every fault in an attemt to undermine and prevent them from defending themselves. You also support left wing causes and their alignment with violent Islamists.

      • Al D

        I agree with you. I was a member of shomrim Toronto and was until it’s last day. There is no mechanism or organization within the Jewish community except JDL and Anti Semitic incidents are skyrocketing and little is being done to confront or counter the rise. JDL is out doing it. JDL got Palestine House funding cut after proving they were funneling terror money. I have been myself trying to provide service and protection to no avail. Jews don’t defend ourselves then we’re soft and when we do we’re terrorists. I dont care what they call themselves and trying to scare people out of joining SOMETHING to protect ourselves with padded stats and deep mining of outdated info won’t stop those of us who believe in Never Again as our battle cry for “enough” mean it no matter who used it. Never again means it. Right now it’s more like “oh no not again”.

  • Shum

    Of course, I’m on the payroll. George pays me 50 cents a word and gives me all the Cheetos I could ask for.

    • TerrorIsEvil
      • My Name Here

        And here’s an article on George Soros conspiracy theories, as anti-Semitic as the Rothschild conspiracy theories that fuelled Hitler. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros_conspiracy_theories

        • TerrorIsEvil

          A conspiracy theory is something that is not true. Real money from Soros going to fund real causes on the left which serve to undermine Western civilization, democracy and Israel are not conspiracies, they are fact.

    • TerrorIsEvil

      Soros is a lot smarter than you – he funds every cause to undermine Israel and America in schools and universities and he works the mainstream press to make sure that certain views are expressed and others are labelled as bigotry, Islamophobia, etc., thus controlling the public opinion using Alinsky techniques. He does not have to pay you, he just has to work with the left to brainwash you and so now you are clay in his hands, working towards his agenda as he makes billions off of the anarchy that he creates wiping out borders and inviting chaos.

  • G.S.K. herzak

    The JDL is a vicious racist Islamaphobic anti-black group to that sides with Trump and his right-wing bigots. Facebook gets my blessings!
    Btw, see how Trump’s supporters are now threatening Jews in CANADA and US? The Jewish community can’t ask for sympathy for the monster they supported!

    • TerrorIsEvil

      Verbal abuse and diarrhea without any factual substance – including a real threat to all Jews (“Jewish community can’t ask for sympathy for the monster they supported”). This is the standard fare for hateful people.

    • TerrorIsEvil

      You and your ilk are the reason why we need the JDL.

  • aswitzer

    I agree with Leon. The JDL don’t promote terror or hatred, but love of Israel, Jews and Judaism. They are Standing up for Israel against real groups advocating hatred, and against those calling for BDS and the destruction of Israel, and I’ve seen their leadership and members as very respectful.

  • Shum

    And still do get their butts kicked if their recent encounters with anarchists in Montreal are anything to go by.